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Marshall: Some School Staff Should Carry Guns

In response to the shootings at a school in Connecticut, Del. Bob Marshall has a proposal to arm some teachers.

National legislators are discussing the possibility of enacting tighter gun control laws after the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, CT.

But in Virginia, a local legislator has proposed that some school staff be required to bear arms. 

Del. Bob Marshall (13th district) has proposed a bill that would require schools to have some staff, certified in gun safety and competence, carry concealed weapons, The Washington Post reported Wednesday.

His proposal comes on the heels of Gov. Bob McDonnell's comments on WTOP that the state should consider allowing teachers to carry weapons in schools. As the Post notes, Marshall's proposal takes the idea a step farther, by ordering schools to arm some staff members.

Gun control and schools are very much on the minds of state legislators across the nation. Michigan's governor on Tuesday vetoed a proposal to allow gun owners with additional training to openly carry weapons in schools and other no-carry zones. A South Carolina legislator also filed a bill to allow school employees with concealed carry permits to bring their weapons to their school. And a Missouri legislator filed a similar bill this week. 

Speak out: what do you think about concealed weapons in schools? Does it make students more or less safe?

Ken Reynolds December 20, 2012 at 02:01 PM
We can do much better than that...............first, ban assault weapons and register ALL guns, and hopefully, cede regulation of guns to the federal government. State and local police should be given authority to enforce federal gun laws.........
Melyssa Young December 20, 2012 at 02:15 PM
I have an 8 year child and the last thing I would want is my child going to school knowing that staff and teachers were armed. I do not want my child growing up in this culture of fear. It's ludicrous to think that everyone should carry a gun. What's next? How about issuing guns to people as soon as they turn 16? Or, even better, as soon as they are born. "Oh no! Little Johnny has a fork and he's going to use it!" BLAM! Yeah, great logic, teach our kids that the solution to problems is to kill! And what about those instances where a pedophile is found in the school and it's one of teachers or staff, well you just armed that pedophile.
Amy W. December 20, 2012 at 03:09 PM
You can ban guns, but when you do I guarantee you that the people that will have them will not be the law-abiding citizens, they will be the "criminals" those that will harm adults, children, etc. and yet we will have nothing to defend ourselves with. After the Newtown tragedy the first thing I thought was if someone in that office had a gun they could have stopped Adam Lanza from killing that many people, but no "they threw their bodies at him to take him down" and he killed them. The way to defend against bad guys with a gun is to give good guys a gun to protect our children! Thank you Gov McDonnell for considering this idea to protect the innocent children in our schools.
Melyssa Young December 20, 2012 at 03:36 PM
And there is another problem with that line of thinking, that "criminals" are the ones committing mass shootings. Adam Lanza was a "law-abiding" citizen. James Holmes was a "law-abiding" citizen. Your argument that if the "good guys" were armed is beyond simplistic. Most of the people who commit mass shootings are mentally ill, who previously received little to no help, but were not seen as threats to anyone by most people and had no prior criminal convictions. So answer me this, how would the public (i.e. not law enforcement) judge who was a "bad guy" and who was a "good guy"? And as long as we are talking about arming everyone, why would we even need law enforcement? Should we just take this country back to the "Good ole' Wild West"?
Jimmy J. December 20, 2012 at 03:51 PM
Absolutely brilliant this Marshall clown. Yeah you expect these selfless educators to teach our children and on top of that they should also be a school security guard? Who's going to pay for their training, weapon purchase and ammunition? That's not even the point but the fact that these clueless legislators feel the need to arm up in order to cater to the gun lobbyist. Stricter gun control, and avoiding cutting back on social programs such as mental health programs so folks can receive treatment. Lastly, education. Start educating adults, and young children/teens about the possible signs of someone who might need help.
Christy December 20, 2012 at 03:54 PM
I am thankful that the governor and Del. Marshall have the sense to see that it's the bad guys with guns who are the problem. There have been many instances that a would-be mass murderer has been stopped due to the quick action of a citizen carrying a concealed weapon. It's too bad that the mainstream media doesn't report those cases. I am in favor of having an armed security guard or teacher/admin person who is certified in gun safety and has a concealed carry permit to be armed in our schools. Disarming the law-abiding citizens will do no one any good and will only enable criminals who obtain their guns illegally to perpetrate crimes on the helpless.
Amy W. December 20, 2012 at 03:54 PM
MY - your comment "So answer me this, how would the public (i.e. not law enforcement) judge who was a "bad guy" and who was a "good guy"? - perhaps it would be the guy breaking into a school with guns a blazin... that's one way to tell who the bad guy is. - Also maybe the parents/family of these so call Mentally unstable people should be evaluated and have family checks to see if they are allowing them access to guns, knives, and if they are a danger to themselves and their family. Mental health is a huge issue in this matter, not just guns.
JustTheFacts December 20, 2012 at 06:43 PM
I think that there should be trained and cleared personnel in schools with guns. I think that the fact that they/we don't have the means to protect ourselves make us live in fear. Adam Lanza was not a "good guy". Just because he didn't have a prior history doesn't make him a "good guy", but if someone at the school had had a weapon he probably woundn't have gotten as far as he did. He was a "bad guy" or "sick guy" who just hadn't committed a crime until now. But, the sad thing about it is that people knew he wasn't wrapped to tight and they did nothing about it.
Melyssa Young December 20, 2012 at 08:19 PM
More guns does NOT equal more safety. More guns equals more violence and accidents. And yes, mental health is a huge problem, but who's going to pay for that? Our wonderful "you're on your own" healthcare system? You want to know what less guns does take a look at this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20765259
Scott Lewis December 20, 2012 at 11:26 PM
Rep. Marshall, your time has long passed. Please leave government service. Thank you.
Tanya Guadalupe December 21, 2012 at 04:19 PM
http://www.c-span.org/Events/NRA-News-Conference-in-Response-to-Newtown-CT-Shooting/10737436772-1/ He makes a lot of good points.
Joe Guadalupe December 21, 2012 at 08:39 PM
You're right. We should teach them to cower and give in to criminals that would take everything up to and including their lives and just hope for the best. Punch a bully back? Never! That poor bully is just misunderstood and they need a hug. How did we get to the point where our physical safety and mental sanctity aren't worth fighting for? This is the everybody gets a trophy/be a good witness dependence mentality that is ruining our society. What happened to self sufficiency? What happened to holding those that commit a crime accountable for that crime? Brutality inflicted by the deranged cannot be predicted and cannot be legislated away. Brutality also cannot be tolerated and MUST be answered by those most directly affected in order for them to prevent THEMSELVES from becoming victims. Fighting is not for everybody. Guns are not for everybody. Some people can't remember to use a fire extinguisher in the event of a fire (you all know who you are) but that doesn't mean you should have access to it. Why is is that the same people that support a woman's right to choose also have such a big problem with the right to self-defense? These are our bodies and we should be able to defend them... HOWEVER WE SEE FIT. Here's other side of the story in case you care: http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2012/08/dallas-woman-found-dead-two-days-after-calling-911-for-help.html/ http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/10553140/ http://digitaljournal.com/article/335342
Joe Guadalupe December 21, 2012 at 08:48 PM
Can people please educate themselves before talking about the old west like the streets were running with blood. You all are watching too many movies. In reality, Chicago (a bastion of gun control) is far more dangerous than the old west was. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/01/chicago-homicides-reach-4_n_1929015.html
Joe Guadalupe December 21, 2012 at 09:03 PM
And PLEASE start doing your own research on the link to guns and crime: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/18/gun-ownership-up-crime-down/ Even if you don't believe the actual statistics about violent crime trending down over several years even though gun ownership is trending up... then just open your eyes and realize that you live in a world full of guns. Why is it that you believe that a gun in the hands of a normal citizen that went to the police academy is a good thing but a gun in the hands of your neighbor is a bad thing. And come on now... even the UK has plenty of crime. What they don't have is a right to self defense (you may want to avert your eyes, the truth can be shocking): http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/dad-bailed-for-burglar-murder/story-fn6e1m7z-1226141306621 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/5366544.stm http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-20309502 http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/sep/03/leicestershire-homeowner-suspected-burglars-shot
MarieS December 22, 2012 at 03:44 PM
I absolutely would not and will not send my child into a school where teachers or administrators are carrying concealed weapons. Only in Virginia does keeping children safe from guns seem to mean sending more guns into the school. This is an embarrassment. Obviously these politicians feel they need NRA support more than they need to keep our children safe. We need to vote these guys out as soon as possible - they put our children's safety second to their political support and money from gun "enthusiasts" - i.e. people who put our children's safety second to their desire to collect and play with lethal toys. Enough already, Virginia!
Bruce Gentile December 22, 2012 at 09:32 PM
Most of the conversation seems to be limited to school incidents and mentally ill people. In the U.S. we send more than 200 people per day to emergency rooms with gunshot wounds and average about 85 deaths daily from gunshot wounds. This isn't just from criminal acts, it also includes accidents and suicides. Mass shootings incidents aren't limited to schools. We see them regularly in shopping malls, businesses, churches and theaters. From 1993 to 2000 deaths from guns dropped significantly. Since 2000 there has been a gradual increase in the number of gun related deaths almost every year. There is no one solution that will eliminate this problem, but there is one consistent factor in all of the incidents - GUNS.
MarieS December 22, 2012 at 11:56 PM
"There have been many instances that a would-be mass murderer has been stopped due to the quick action of a citizen carrying a concealed weapon." Really? Name some.
MarieS December 23, 2012 at 12:00 AM
Actual information and real data don't agree. For example, check out this video: http://www.nogunsoncampusva.com/
MC December 23, 2012 at 01:22 AM
Bob Marshall is serving his 7th term in office. He won by 59.58%. Next election is in 2013. He is the same legislator that said "The number of children who are born subsequent to a first abortion with handicaps has increased dramatically, Why? Because when you abort the first born of any, nature takes its vengeance on the subsequent children." He needs to go!!
shawn anes December 23, 2012 at 12:36 PM
wow marie s. you won't send your child to a school where people are armed but you will let them go to a school where the people have no way at all to protect your child from the armed.???? Better keep your children from malls, banks, disney world, and all other places where there are minimally trained people with guns. There called security guards. But hey they took a class and have a cool shiny badge.

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